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Follow me to the promised land

We still don't know how to deal with minority tribes, gangs writ large who operate entirely in their own interest. They seek to force the world to accommodate their needs (by any means necessary), rather than accommodate themselves to the world.

There's something about a pious man such as he. He will cheerfully cut your throat if it suits him, but he will hesitate to endanger the welfare of your immaterial and problematical soul. - Issac Asimov

Plausibility is their tribe's stock in trade. Individually, their hallmarks are religious and ideological purity, and a monopoly on wisdom. That there is no way to implement their programs doesn't stop them from proposing them.


Prediction exists for the purpose of prevention

Your constitution is all sail and no anchor. As I said before, when a society has entered on this downward progress, either civilisation or liberty must perish. Either some Caesar or Napoleon will seize the reins of government with a strong hand; or your republic will be as fearfully plundered and laid waste by barbarians in the twentieth Century as the Roman Empire was in the fifth; - with this difference, that the Huns and Vandals who ravaged the Roman Empire came from without, and that your Huns and Vandals will have been engendered within your own country by your own institutions.

Thomas Babington Macaulay (1800–59), letter to Henry Stephens Randall, May 23, 1857.
The Letters of Thomas Babington Macaulay, ed. Thomas Pinney, vol. 6, p. 96 (1981).

"Either some Caesar or Napoleon will seize the reins of government with a strong hand; or your republic will be as fearfully plundered and laid waste by barbarians in the twentieth Century as the Roman Empire was in the fifth; - with this difference, that the Huns and Vandals who ravaged the Roman Empire came from without, and that your Huns and Vandals will have been engendered within your own country by your own institutions.

Well, we barely made it through the twentieth century without the republic being plundered (at least no more plundered than it was in the 19th century).

The only thing that gives me hope for the future of this country is the Internet which allows bright people (both left and right) to debate politics daily. We are no longer limited to the spin from politicians and their corporatist MSM mouthpieces. When it comes to politics, the people I spend time with are all more knowledgeable today than at anytime in the past.


the people I spend time with

Therein lies the rub, your sample is too small.

It's true that more today can be learned from open sources. What's lacking is the propensity to seek knowledge, among the majority of voters and a minority of congressmen, congressmen being somewhat smarter than average. The average citizen's interest is in seeking and finding a free lunch, not destroying his personal illusion by embracing the fact that There Is No Free Lunch. How else does one explain the 'volunteer' army, other than as a free lunch for a people who are too self-important to fight the nation's wars?

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

- Alexander Fraser Tytler (1747–1813)

"Therein lies the rub, your sample is too small"

I agree, the sample size is small, but the point is, we now have an alternative source of opinion writing, and I believe that the numbers who read these alternative sources is rising, even while the MSM is losing readership.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury."

That's a provocative statement. I think it is one of those statements that sound logical but don't have a lot of evidence to back it up. We've been a nation for 233 years and we still don't have universal, government paid, health care, and there is not a chance in hell we'll get any time soon. Other stable nations have had it for decades and they are still thriving. That's government largesse that is badly needed but after 233 years the voters still haven't pressed for it.

Personally I see government largesse as a mark of a successful civilization. I believe we would be much better off as a nation if health care was free for all and college was either free or cheap enough for everyone who qualified could attend. I think we should have more free legal aid for the poor, free mental health clinics, free drug rehabilitation clinics for those who want to get off drugs. I think job training should be free. But there's not a snowball's chance in hell the American people would ever vote for any of this.


California, land formerly belonging to Mexico now thought to be part of the United States

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury."

That's a provocative statement. I think it is one of those statements that sound logical but don't have a lot of evidence to back it up.

Proposition 13, officially titled the "People's Initiative to Limit Property Taxation," ... The proposition's passage resulted in a cap on property tax rates in the state, reducing them by an average of 57%.


"The proposition's passage resulted in a cap on property tax rates in the state, reducing them by an average of 57%."

Isn't this a case where the public rejected government largesse? I assume the people who voted for this knew that it would result in fewer government services.

I suspect that a national referendum cutting the federal tax rate for everyone 50% would probably pass today despite the fact that it would almost certainly mean the end of hundreds of government services, some quite vital to the nation.


'The end of hundreds of government services, some quite vital to the nation'

... like the Army

Also, avoiding state control is a very expensive/resource intensive endeavor. AKA, freedom ain't free.

Posted by: Nate at Nov 7, 2009 4:30:53 PM
http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2009/11/the-art-of-not-being-governed.html#comments

In nature there is no right or wrong, there are only acts and consequences. Offer people a free lunch today and and they'll trade away tomorrow's freedom. It not only can happen, it has happened. The 'volunteer' army and Prop. 13 are two examples.

Training the Afghan Army founders on a lack of trainers. The reason we don't have trainers is because a 'volunteer' army, a/k/a a professional army, a/k/a an army of mercenaries, doesn't need a lot of training because they're fighting all the time. A draftee army, a/k/a a citizen's army, needs a lot of trainers because there's continuous turnover in the ranks that require training. No citizen's army, no trainers, no Afghan Army.

Massive fail: We can't do the mission because we have a volunteer army.

"We can't do the mission because we have a volunteer army."

Agreed. If we're going to fight war after war we need a draft that no one is exempt from.


If we're going to fight war after war we need a draft

A congress of cowards that is focused on keeping their jobs over the welfare of the troops (and the nation) is not about to hit that sleeping mule between the eyes with a 2x4.

Everyone has sympathy for military families but not enough to join them. 'You're digging our ditch. F U.' The volunteer army will bite us in the rear. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon.

Coup d'etat.

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